Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver (U) READ IF YOUR GAME FREEZES

IdoSC · 2011-03-15 21:08:49

What works:
Everything except network play / WFC / WIFI.
These games freeze in DeSmuME periodically. Use lots of in-game saves.

What's needed:
An anti piracy patch is reported to help reduce the freezing, but it isn't recommended unless you're sure youre stumped. Google is your best friend here (hint: Rudolph's patch).

Optimal Settings:
Soft Rasterizer. Enable Textures is needed (threshold: 0), the rest of the 3D settings don't make a difference.
Advanced BUS Level-Timing is not needed, disable it. External BIOSes and firmware are not needed. Sound works well with Dual SPU Synch.
Optimal speeds:
Decent speed+limited frameskip: Frameskip 9, Auto-Minimzed skipping enabled.
High speed, limited frameskip: Frameskip 4-5.
Highest speed: Frameskip 9.
Use x64 if your system supports it. Don't use SVNs unless you know what it means and you want it (note: official releases are optimized and give a huge FPS boost if you don't optimize your SVNs).

Notes/Game FAQ:
*THIS GAME (like most of the games honestly) IS SLOW ON LOW END COMPUTERS. IF YOUR COMPUTER IS FROM 2006 OR EARLIER YOUR FPS WILL MOST LIKELY SUCK.

*GBA slot works WITH A SAVE FILE (*.sav) OF VBA OR ANY OF IT'S UPGRADES/PORTS.

*SAVE TYPE is automatic. I repeat, AUTOMATIC.

*As with all pokemon games, make an in-game save as early as possible and relaunch the emulator to verify that it can be loaded. This will help make you feel secure that when you get to the end of the game and need to reset and load a save file, it will work.

*If you didn't download the emulator from the official Desmume site then it WON'T WORK, no matter what youtube guide you used.

*Use 0.9.7. There may be a slight speed drop from 0.9.6 and below, but if you use 0.9.6 and below and you face an antipiracy then I'm not gonna answer your questions.

Feel free to ask any questions regarding this game here. Granted, this forum is meant for emulation/compatibility related questions, not to discuss the actual game (unless it's related to a bug in the emulation).

Last edited by zeromus (2013-01-22 20:19:10)

Manivo · 2011-03-15 23:32:20

Do you really need to repeat things in text?

zeromus · 2011-03-16 00:17:51

It makes it more entertaining when you tell a noob to read it again I MEAN READ IT AGAIN

IdoSC · 2011-03-16 17:23:09

Manivo wrote:

Do you really need to repeat things in text?

Yes. People ignore a damn huge thread saying Pokemon is unsupported because of ignorance among Pokemon fans. Repeating is definitely a must here.

Manivo · 2011-03-16 18:05:58

Except that if they don't read it the first time, what makes you think they'll read it if you type it out again right afterward?

IdoSC · 2011-03-16 18:08:06

Manivo wrote:

Except that if they don't read it the first time, what makes you think they'll read it if you type it out again right afterward?

Bold text, answering "reread the OP", or if you guys will support it, huge ban hammers flying around.

Meh, I'll remove all the repeats if it's such a big deal.

aneo9988 · 2011-03-16 22:29:13

This isn't working for me, I load my save state, but when I save in game it does not read it and whenever I leave the room I am in it glitches- the bottom menu has no icons and sometimes the screen turns black. Please Help !!

Manivo · 2011-03-17 09:29:54

It's not that big a deal. Just reflects poorly, in my opinion, on the way you come across.

Anyhow, I'm not planning to ban anyone for asking a question about a game that isn't supported, or that was already answered. First of all, banning is a bit of a problem since it works via IP. In today's world of ever-changing dynamic IPs that will both be useless for banning that user and disruptive to a different, innocent user who might receive that IP and be unable to enter the forum.

Besides, if they're banned - how will they be able to come back and read Zero's scything remark on their mental aptitude?

Manivo · 2011-03-17 09:35:12

And aneo9988 - read the goddamned OP.

Playthroughtime · 2011-04-04 22:54:32

Phew, I thought I was going to have to post a complaint stating it freezes every time I get to Violet City. I almost humiliated myself there!

Manivo · 2011-04-05 04:51:48

And yet you still managed to do that just fine.

Platinum Lucario · 2011-04-19 21:42:19

I'm pretty sure some developers may not know about this, but the freezing problem in HeartGold/SoulSilver is not really an AP problem, it's an emulation problem. Even a flashcard has some sort of thing to emulate the ROMs. Just look at Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story on NO$GBA, it keeps repeating the attack when battling Bowser at the start, but with DeSmuME... it doesn't have that problem. So really, it's just a coding that an emulator cannot read, and when it cannot read the code, it skips it and continues on. I have not yet tried out HeartGold and SoulSilver on DeSmuME 0.9.7 yet, so I'm not sure as of yet if the problem is fixed.

And yes, I do indeed agree that all Pokémon fans really should pay attention to the thread and not ignore the fact that Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver and Black/White are unsupported because too many keep creating threads about that HeartGold/SoulSilver keeps freezing for them.

zeromus · 2011-04-19 22:20:38

developers are well aware of the fact that what gamers call "AP" may just be emulation bugs. I am 100% certain that HG/SS have crashing emulation bugs, and it is unlikely that AP consists of random freezing. the AP as an EXP limit sounds more plausible and would be a strange thing for an emulation bug.

Manivo · 2011-04-19 23:51:20

AFAIK the random freezes have been deemed to be intentional anti-piracy measures. The game runs a check on memory addresses, when it reaches a memory address higher than what the original cart should have (which emulators and most flashcards allow) the game freezes.

zeromus · 2011-04-20 00:21:28

if its that easy, then....

Manivo · 2011-04-20 07:49:19

Fixing the freezes is as easy as applying a patch or an action replay code, too. Limiting memory addresses on the emulator might screw up homebrew who do use them.

zeromus · 2011-04-20 17:17:18

why dont you supply a reference and let me think about that.

Manivo · 2011-04-20 19:53:51

Because I don't care enough about pokemon games. Also, it's already fixed as far as I'm concerned.

zeromus · 2011-04-20 20:05:12

uh huh

saramarjorie · 2011-08-08 14:48:00

Alright, potential n00b question, so I apologize:

I haven't had problem with freezing, but it seems that my "touch screen" part of the game is not fully working. I am only in the very very beginning, but when the mother gives me things like the map, phone, pokedex, whatever else, etc, I don't have a menu to choose from. I even got to the point where I am in the woods after meeting Prof. Juniper and the bottom touch-screen simulator only has a pink screen with no buttons or anything. Is this normal? Or is this a glitch? I am playing Desmume 0.9.7 on Mac... maybe thats why? Thanks.

zeromus · 2011-08-11 09:31:19

are you playing desmume 0.9.7 on a very old PPC mac?

QuickDrawMcGraw · 2011-09-27 00:58:17

i opened up the pokemon soul silver successfully but the screen is still black

Baxo2450 · 2011-10-27 10:11:29

Hi, I play Pokemon Heart Gold, and it worked fine, and i got all the badges and was trying to catch 'em all, but then i entered a code in the cheat section, and now when i open DeSmuME.0.9.4-win32 and click open ROM and click on Heart Gold, it freezes, and I can't remove the cheat because it freezes just as i click on heart gold, so I can't get in on the cheat list.. What should I do?!

zeromus · 2011-10-27 22:32:48

delete the cheat list file from your hard drive. .cht or .dct

Baxo2450 · 2011-10-28 08:46:29

Where do I do that?

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